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Kim Kardashian appeared on the Wednesday, Jan. 21 episode of her sister Khloé's podcast, Khloé In Wonderland
During the interview, Kim recalled stories of calling the paparazzi with close friend Jonathan Cheban
She also addressed rumors that the two are no longer friends and said, "I love Jonathan"
All is well betweenKim Kardashianand her longtime friendJonathan "FoodGod" Cheban.
TheKardashiansstar, 45, appeared on her sisterKhloé'spodcast,Khloé In Wonder Land,on Wednesday, Jan. 21, and opened up about her famous friendship with Cheban, 51, addressing speculation that the two have had a falling out.
Kim first recalled Cheban helping her pose for paparazzi snaps earlier in her career before she told Khloé, "I love Jonathan, we should call him."
As she took out her phone to call him, the SKIMS founder pointd out, "I think people think that we don't talk." The two sisters then chatted with Cheban on FaceTime, who answered from a dinner in Miami.
After they ended the call, Kim told Khloé, 41, "Jonathan and I are good," explaining, "Here's the thing, I had kids." Kim shares daughtersNorth, 12,Chicago, 8, and sonsSaint, 10, andPsalm, 6, with ex-husbandKanye West.
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"It's really hard to maintain friendships when you have kids and you're like in it," Kim said, before detailing their different lifestyles. "Jonathan is not going to come and sit around Calabasas all day. He's like always on the move."
Khloé added, "Especially when someone else doesn't have kids."
"It's not like you can do play dates with your kids. I get that," Khloé said. "We love Jonathan. There's so much history there."
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Nearly a year before Kim debunked the rumors, Cheban rejected the claims during a March 2025 interview withUs Weekly, sharing sentiments similar to Kim's about their differing lifestyles.
"I mean, she's got so many kids and so many things to do and I'm all the way on [the east] coast, so it's like, yeah, we don't see each other as much, but we talk all the time and anything happens that I feel like we should discuss, we just send it right away."
"It's so funny to watch this stuff 'cause we are friends and we talk all the time,' he said, adding that they are 'absolutely' still close friends. "We're going to be friends forever — and it's fun."
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